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THE WAR AND PEACE SHOW 2002

Beginner's Guide to Buying a Jeep


A BEGINNERS BUYERS GUIDE TO BUYING A WAR TIME WILLYS MB/FORD GPW 1941 TO 1945.
By our expert Mark Askew of Jeep World Magazine

History

The Willys MB ‘Slat Grill’ 18th November 1941 To 6th March 1942

After winning the contract for the standard production of this new military 1/4 truck (the MA), the original order was for 16,000 units, so back to the drawing board Willys went. The selection of Willys MA standardised the design on the Willys chassis, though the final product incorporated the Ford’s square hood design and grill made up of heavy bars, as well as flat fenders. The Willys name was no longer stamped on the front edge of the bonnet and the head lamps were now set into the grill area. The final standard version was dubbed the Willys MB. After a run of nearly 25,808 Slat Grill units by the end of March 1942 the new MB made its debut, the grill design was revised yet again to the 9 slotted grill stamping that we all know and love today.

The Slat Grill was named for its welded steel grill (not unlike the Ford GP). The early production MB’s were definitely ‘works in progress’. Many running changes appeared during their production, all of which evolved into the final version of the MB. An early production Slat Grill is an entirely different animal to a late production Jeep. At least 5,112 Slat Grills were built without glove boxes (although the dash plates were still in the same place), and around 3,545 of the very early production models used a shorter MA style windscreen. Most early MB’s also have a very noticeable squared-off fuel tank sump different from the later rounded look. Other smaller differences included the black-out light, which was mounted on the left front wing. A round exhaust muffler was used on these early models, instead of the familiar oval one in later years. AC air filters were used instead of the later Oakes unit, rubber bonnet bumpers where used instead of the later wood. Most early MB’s had solid disc wheels (not the combat spilt rims, seen on later models). There is a noticeable lack of a spare Jerry can holder, and no trailer light connector.

Today, you can still find some Willys Slat Grills around (more so here in the UK), and even though not so many were made, their value is still similar to that of standard grill design. The reason appears to be that most Jeep owners or buyers are looking for that well known standard grill look rather than the one they don’t know much about, so hence they’re not really sought after, although in my mind they should be. It would appear that most of these early Slat Grills were sent overseas (under lend-lease programs). As for the USA, they estimate that there are only around 300 that survive there today.

Since the Willys MA had the ‘Willys’ logo on the grill, the new MB grill did not have the room for it. So Willys stamped the ‘Willys’ name on the rear left of the body tub. This also carried over to the early stamped grilled MB’s, and the same was also done on early Ford GPW’s, these became known as script bodies. Today many people ask ‘why’ were the name(s) removed? ‘Well’ the answer to that is very simple, the US government did not wish to see any ‘Free’ advertising on any of its military equipment, so Willys and Ford were told to remove their logos as soon as they could. So hence the Slat Grill and Script bodied MB’s and GPW’s are becoming more sought after today.

The Willys MB/Ford GPW. Bantam and Ford were frozen out of the action for the moment, though events would soon alter that. On December 7th, 1941, Japan launched a murderous sneak attack on the American naval base at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, sinking or disabling several of the Navy’s largest ships and killing hundreds of young American boys in uniform. Despite American efforts to remain on the sidelines, they were suddenly placed into the war. The need for the new military car was now going to be greater than the most optimistic had envisioned. Besides the US Army needs, thousands of new scout cars would eventually be supplied to allied armies in virtually every theatre of the war.

Events picked up speed. The previous Jeep orders, which had seemed so lucrative, now seemed insignificant. Even the 16,000 unit order that went to Willys paled in comparison to what the military was now calling for (which was of course the Slat Grill, of which some 25,808 were made). Along the way, and acutely before the attack on Pearl, Ford won the right to also produce Jeeps for the military. The Quartermaster still wanted a second source of supply. A compromise was reached by having Ford agree to produce the Willys design under license. Willys would turn over copies of all the designs so that the Ford could now build the standardised Jeep. The Ford product would be designated the GPW (for General Purpose Willys or G for Government and P for 80 inch wheel base, W for Willys) which indicated that it was a Ford GP, but built to the Willys standard design. Willys however never received any fees or remuneration for this. The standardised stamped grill Willys MB appeared on the 12th June 1942 and finished in September of 1945. However Ford’s GPW came from their factory on 6th January 1942 and ended on 30th July 1945. The reason for Willys MB’s later arrival was due to the fact that they were still building the Slat Grill model.

One of the major differences in both early Willys and Ford models was the ‘Script’ logo on the rear body tub, just below where the Jerry can holder sits. This stamped out ‘Ford’ or ‘Willys’ logo featured on around 17,000 early Fords, and around the same numbers on Willys models. But by late 1942 these were removed by government order.

Bantam, however, was now out of consideration for Jeep production. The army reported that Ford offered to expand the large amounts of money necessary to set up production of critically needed Jeep components, particularly the constant velocity joints needed for its front-end drive, items which had created a bottleneck in production lines. Bantam was financially unable to do the same, although it did submit a plant, to have additional suppliers put the components into production. Again, Bantam’s small size and precarious financial condition served to deny the company its rightful role in Jeep production. As the army saw things, with two large production sources, Willys and Ford, building Jeeps, there was no need for a third supplier. There is a hint in all the official papers that some military officers were just plain determined to see that Ford be a part of the project, despite Bantam’s role as the designer of the original prototype. Looking back, it seems blatantly unfair that Bantam didn’t get to share in the abundant Jeep contracts after working so hard to see the thing through its birthing, but back then the people involved were consumed by the urgency of the times. Bantam was given contracts to build Jeep Trailers. This work kept them in business for the time being, but did nothing to help keep them in the auto business in the post-war market.

Buying

By the end of the war, Willys had built some 359,489 units, while Ford built some 277,896. As both companies were using the same design and parts, this meant that all parts were interchangeable. Both Jeeps had the 2.2 litre flat head 4 cylinder Willys or Ford side valve engine (named as the Go-Devil), and both were mated to the 3 speed manual gear box. For most of their war days they both came with 6 volt electrics, although some were made with 12 volt towards the end of the war, or may have been converted by individual armies depending on their needs and usage. There are a number of differences between the Willys and Ford Jeeps, and most ‘so called Jeep experts’ would tell you that it is the front chassis cross member. On the Willys it was a round tube section and on the Ford it was an inverted U channel section. In most cases this is true, but during the war both companies were running out of spares to build the Jeeps quick enough for the world wide armies demand. A company by the name of O.H. Smith was producing chassis for Willys and by 1943 Ford were also buying from that same company, so hence Ford was using the Willys style chassis and not their own, so the two differences may or may not be correct. But one major difference between the two was the fact that Ford used only bolts with the ‘F’ stamp on them, and they also stamped a number of panels with the letter ‘F’.

It seemed altogether fitting then that when officers representing the military forces of Imperial Japan set out to sign the articles of surrender in September 1945, they were driven part of the way in a Jeep. The war in Europe was already over, in fact World War Two was now completely finished, and at this point so was the production of the military Jeep, although it was to continue life as a civilian version.

Later on, there would be arguments about exactly who invented the Jeep. Senate hearings were even held to look into the claims made by the parties involved, as well as to investigate the military contracts that were awarded for its production. But during the war, Willys, then-president Joseph W. Frazer shrewdly had the Jeep name copyrighted, as a Willys brand and that copyright settled who would be selling Jeeps after the war (this was later registered in 1950). For Willys it was the coup of the century. They would never again have to worry about sweating out a profit on economy car sales. With the Jeep as their main post-war product, they could at last conduct their business in an end of the market that had no real competition. Ford never really had a chance anyway, since the Ford GPW was a copy of the Willys. Poor little Bantam never re - entered the automobile market and eventually faded away. So credit for the original design can only go to Karl Probst and Bantam. Karl later wrote

"There was no way I could have visualised the succession of events which would see Willys and others get credit for the Jeep’s development, as well as production contracts, while we at Bantam would get little of either."

Many have tried to copy the Jeep over the many years since its birth and some with success, but they all, should always remember this - ‘Jeep, was the original 4x4xFar by far, and we have over 60 years of off road experience’.

Rust and parts

Rust has always been a major problem with Jeeps, full stop. None more so than the war time Jeeps. The front wings (fenders), windscreen surround, body tub, fuel tank and floor pans are the first to go. But replica panels, tubs, wings, grills etc are now readily available today, as are some ‘new/old’ stocks. With a large number of suppliers here in the UK, parts are never going to be a problem. Although when buying a war time Jeep, do check out the engine, as the block has a tendency to crack, and the gear box ‘although very strong’, does have a tendency to jump out of 2nd gear, hence a gearbox rebuild may be in order.

Good WW2 Jeeps are getting hard to find, but we estimate that there are around 4,000 Willys/Ford Jeeps here in the UK (Note, all are left hand drive). Why so many? Well remember that most Jeeps during the war were shipped overseas, with a large number coming here, and the British Forces used them until the late 1950’s. In fact in the USA, Jeeps are less common, as they did not have a huge need for them back home, and most of their Jeeps were sent to world-wide US Army bases, so hence they command more money over there, than they do here.

As for accessories, the Jeep did not have many; axe, shovel, tilt canvas top, Jerry can, spare wheel, fire extinguisher, tools, rifle rack and that was about it. Although in later years, armies and enthusiasts have fitted; side screens, radios, machine guns and mounts, and some come with the added bonus of a Bantam Jeep trailer. As for markings, well this will vary from Jeep to Jeep as owners may have put their chosen markings on them or even painted them in unusual colours i.e. US Navy, 101 Airborne, SAS, Ambulance, Para’s etc.

Prices, well this will vary from condition, to full kit, to those with trailers, early models and so on. You may find an early Willys MB ‘Slat Grill’ selling for £6,000 in good condition, yet a late Ford GPW in good condition may fetch £8,000. Yet you may come across a not so good Willys MB with script body for around £4,000 to £5,000. Please remember, this is only a rough price guide for you to follow. WW2 Jeeps have often been referred to as the poor mans classic car, but in recent years prices have started to go up, in fact we have seen them fetch as much as £10,000, so not so much a poor mans classic car anymore.

Finally do not be fooled by a Hotchkiss M201 Jeep (although there is nothing wrong with Hotchkiss Jeeps), for differences and their price guide please see issue number 22 of Jeep World.

If you are new to this military and Jeep buying game, your best bet would be to come along to the War & Peace Show, as there will be over 500 on show, with many for sale, either private or trade. Here you will get a good chance to learn all about them form other Jeep owners, find out where to get the parts from (via the hundreds of trade stands). Mark Askew of Jeep World Magazine will be having a stand at the show Row 1A, number 7, so do pop in for a chat and get free friendly advice. Mark can supply you with the nessasary Books/Manuals and back issue copies of Jeep World magazine which would help you further in your research into buying a Jeep.

Not forgetting of course your chance to win a Jeep in the War & Peace Show annual 'Win a Jeep, Raffle'. Just another great reason for you to visit the world's largest military show.

Willys MB (either Slat Grill or standard) and Ford GPW. 1941 to 1945.
BAD GOOD EXCELLENT
£1,000 TO £3,000 £3,000 TO £5,000 £6,000 TO £8,000
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